{"id":533,"date":"2022-10-07T15:35:29","date_gmt":"2022-10-07T15:35:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/?p=533"},"modified":"2022-10-08T12:17:28","modified_gmt":"2022-10-08T12:17:28","slug":"risk-free-profit-or-disaster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/index.php\/2022\/10\/07\/risk-free-profit-or-disaster\/","title":{"rendered":"Risk-Free Profit or Disaster?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"tta_notice\"><\/div><button id=\"tta__listent_content_1\" class=\"tta__listent_content \" type=\"button\"  title=\"Text To Audio:  Tap to listen post.\"><div class='tta_button'><span class=\"dashicons dashicons-controls-play\"><\/span> <span> Listen<span><\/div> <\/button>\r\n<style>\r\n#tta__listent_content_1.tta__listent_content{ background-color:#184c53;color:#ffffff;width:100%;border:0;display:block;border-radius:4px;text-decoration:none;cursor:pointer; }\r\n#tta__listent_content_1.tta__listent_content:hover{background-color:#184c53;color:#ffffff;width:100%;border:0;display:block;border-radius:4px;text-decoration:none;cursor:pointer;}\r\n#tta__listent_content_1.tta__listent_content .text-position{ position: absolute;padding-top: 2px; }\r\n#tta__listent_content_1.tta__listent_content .dashicons{ display: none;line-height:1;font-size:25px;height:25px;width:25px; }\r\n\r\n<\/style>\r\n<script>\r\n    window.ttsContent = \"Risk-Free Profit or Disaster? [responsivevoice_button rate=\\\"0.9\\\" pitch=\\\"0.5\\\" volume=\\\"0.8\\\" voice=\\\"US English Female\\\" buttontext=\\\"Play\\\"]Below are orders for two vertical spreads on SPY that I submitted yesterday: SPY Orders Submitted 10-6-22 AM When these orders were submitted, SPY ranged between 375 and 378. The P\/L profiles for each of these orders is worth our attention: SPY Put Spread SPY Call Spread Notice that the two spreads compliment one another. Look at what happens when we combine them. I\\'ll refer to the resulting complex trade as a box spread: SPY Box Spread Both of the orders were filled later in the morning, and gave us a position that maintains a $27 profit line no matter what the price of the underlying is. We\\'ve done the same kind of trade early this week with SPX, which is cash settled. SPY, however, works like a standard American option, which is settled with shares in the SPY ETF. After market closes, we\\'ll take a look at how things worked out.\"\r\n    window.buttonId = 1\r\n    window.ttsListeningSettings = {\"tta__listening_voice\":\"Microsoft Mark - English (United States)\",\"tta__listening_pitch\":1,\"tta__listening_rate\":1,\"tta__listening_volume\":1,\"tta__listening_lang\":\"en-AU\"}\r\n<\/script>\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">[responsivevoice_button rate=&#8221;0.9&#8243; pitch=&#8221;0.5&#8243; volume=&#8221;0.8&#8243; voice=&#8221;US English Female&#8221; buttontext=&#8221;Play&#8221;]Below are orders for two vertical spreads on SPY that I submitted yesterday:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"904\" height=\"159\" src=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyorder.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-535\" srcset=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyorder.jpg 904w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyorder-300x53.jpg 300w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyorder-768x135.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 904px) 100vw, 904px\" \/><figcaption>SPY Orders Submitted 10-6-22 AM<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">When these orders were submitted, SPY ranged between 375 and 378. The P\/L profiles for each of these orders is worth our attention:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"212\" src=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spy-put-1024x212.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spy-put-1024x212.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spy-put-300x62.jpg 300w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spy-put-768x159.jpg 768w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spy-put.jpg 1171w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>SPY Put Spread <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"213\" src=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spycallspread-1024x213.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-537\" srcset=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spycallspread-1024x213.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spycallspread-300x63.jpg 300w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spycallspread-768x160.jpg 768w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spycallspread.jpg 1171w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>SPY Call Spread<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Notice that the two spreads compliment one another. Look at what happens when we combine them. I&#8217;ll refer to the resulting complex trade as a <em>box spread<\/em>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"216\" src=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread-1024x216.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-538\" srcset=\"https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread-1024x216.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread-300x63.jpg 300w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread-768x162.jpg 768w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread-940x198.jpg 940w, https:\/\/newmiller.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/spyboxspread.jpg 1155w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>SPY Box Spread<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Both of the orders were filled later in the morning, and gave us a position that maintains a $27 profit line no matter what the price of the underlying is. We&#8217;ve done the same kind of trade early this week with SPX, which is cash settled. SPY, however, works like a standard American option, which is settled with shares in the SPY ETF. After market closes, we&#8217;ll take a look at how things worked out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listen [responsivevoice_button rate=&#8221;0.9&#8243; pitch=&#8221;0.5&#8243; volume=&#8221;0.8&#8243; voice=&#8221;US English Female&#8221; buttontext=&#8221;Play&#8221;]Below are orders for two vertical spreads on SPY that I submitted yesterday: When these orders were submitted, SPY ranged between 375 and 378. 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